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- This is an unedited version - Megan 04/20/92
-
- BGP/CIDR BOF
- Wednesday, 18 March, 1992, 1:30-3:30pm.
- San Diego IETF
- Chaired by Yakov Rekhter (IBM Watson) and Peer Ford (LANL)
-
- The BGP working group met jointly with people interested in
- Classless InterDomain Routing (CIDR) in a BOF to discuss the
- development of an addressing plan which can be used for IP.
- CIDR would allow collapsing adjacent network addresses into a single prefix,
- and that prefix would be passed within the routing system as the
- route to all the "collapsed" networks. CIDR is proposed to mitigate
- the scaling problems in the Internet's routing system which are due to
- ``flat routing'' and the fact that the Internet will shortly (1-3 years)
- run out of class B addresses. When the Internet runs out of class B addresses,
- the current available option is to allocate class C network addresses which
- will require networks which have more than 255 end systems to advertise
- multiple network addresses to the global Internet routing system.
- The purpose of the BOF was to discuss various schemes for assigning and
- collapsing addresses, including collapsing along a multi-level
- hierarchy, what the hierarchies would look like (size and placement),
- what the mapping between network providers and collapsed prefixes would
- look like. There was a significant turnout of interested people and
- the discussion was quite spirited.
-
- Yakov Rekhter led off the discussion with a brief overview of CIDR and
- an explanation of the goals of the BOF. He then presented a proposal for
- Address Assignment Authorities (AAAs). Following are notes from his
- slides:
-
- {beginning of slides}
- Goal: "Recommended Guidelines for IP Address Assignment."
- To achieve:
- consistency
- efficiency
- ease of management and coordination
-
- "Address Assignment Authority" (AAA)
-
- Distributed way of managing address space
- Promote routing information efficiency
- Recursive ==> delegation of AAA
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- Need to extend CIDR
-
- Pure class "C" supernetting provides _limited_ extension with
- respect to the IP address space
-
- Large portions of A & B are still unused!
-
- "AAA" concept needs to be applied to the _whole_ IP address space.
-
- How to carve address space?
-
- Top-Down to ensure feasible routing (wrt scaling)
- How many levels
- Branching Factor at each level
- (deep trees vrs bushy trees)
- Need to determine number of top level AAAs.
-
- CIDR & "NSAP Address Guidelines"
-
- Attempt to solve the same problem
- May benefit from coordination between NSAP address assignment and
- IP address assignment
-
- Single AAA --> IP & NSAP
-
- IP and NSAP topology is likely to be congruent
- Address administration boundaries are likely to be congruent:
- a service provider provides both IP and CLNP services
- the same geographical area provides both IP and CLNP services
-
- {end of Slides}
-
-
- Yakov went on to propose a possible allocation of AAA's, which was to
- assume a top down allocation of 1000 AAAs which would require
- coding top level AAA coding of 10 bits. Within the class c
- address space this would imply that each AAA would have a
- maximum of 1000 class C network addrs.
- This was a good starting point for discussing network topology
- issues, and "who would be candidates for being AAAs?".
-
- There were several people disagreeing with Yakov's proposal for picking
- a fixed size breakout for top level AAAs. Several people
- proposed an allocation of top level AAAs which was scaled by the
- size of the community one was trying to serve, perhaps
- using the population size or the size of the telephone networks as
- scaling factors. It was noted that using a Kampei style address
- assignment scheme might be a good thing to do here.
-
- There was concern expressed for deploying CIDR too soon, before
- a sufficient technology base was deployed for aggregating multiple
- class C network addresses. Several people noted that
- this may have severe impacts on intra-domain routing protocols since
- an aggregated prefix would have to be exploded to its constituent
- class C networks if the routing protocols did not handle
- aggregation correctly (RIP and EGP).
-
- There was significant discussion of how to carve up class A and class B
- network addresses effectively. There was general concurrence that
- for the time being class A's should not be allocated. This would be until
- there is a technology base which can be used with carved up A's. It was
- noted that this would be feasible once most routers "knew how to
- do variable length subnets".
-
- There was discussion on how Class C# (Solensky and Kastenholz) could
- coexist with CIDR.
-
- Jon Postel gave a short description of what the IANA does and how it
- decides who gets what network addresses.
-
- The discussion clearly overran the time allotment and future
- discussion of this issue was proposed to continue on Email
- using the big-internet@munnari.oz.au mailing list. Yakov Rekhter
- agreed to discuss with the IESG about forming a working group to
- work on an IP addressing plan.
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